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« Odgovori #15 u: Siječanj 24, 2008, 15:56:18 poslijepodne »
pogledat ću.. nadam se da ovo proljeće ide jedna u vrt, zajedno s washingtoniom :).
meni je problem samo zaštita jer ne živim dolje, pa moram instalirati trajnu zaštitu, po mogućnosti s grijanjem koje se samo iskljućuje. a problem je jer ne mogu provjetravati u toplim danima pa je i mogućnost truljenja i oboljenja veća...
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USDA zone: 8b (prema 8a)
Prosječna godišnja apsolut. min. temp.:  -9,4°C
Apsolutna minimalna temperatura:        -16,1°C - 1985. g.
(razdoblje od 1961. g. do 2010. g.)
Godišnja prosječna temperatura:           13,0°C
Ukupna godiš. količina padalina:      oko 900 mm

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« Odgovori #16 u: Siječanj 25, 2008, 14:34:12 poslijepodne »
Evo zanimljivih statistike o otpornosti B. capitate:


Butia capitata "Pindo Palm"
Freeze:       Date: Jan 6, 1999 Min:12°F / -11.1°C for 5 Hour(s) Total Freeze Duration: 2 Day(s)
Damage:       20% Leaf-burn after 3 Week(s).
Location:       28270 in a Exposed (to wind or heat radiation) Microclimate.
Soil:       Loam with Excellent Drainage.
Protection:       Artificial: No protection.
Source:       Gerin Choiniere E-Mail: Gchoiniere@AOL.com


Butia capitata
Size:       Adult (in reproductive age)
Freeze:       Date: Dec, 1990 Min:5°F / -15°C
Damage:       Dead
Location:       Seattle, BC, Canada.
Comment:   Planted as a 5 gallon plant in 1970, it grew in my backyard shrugging off twenty winters and developing a thick permanent trunk. Unfortunately, in Dec 1990 I was out of town, a coldsnap hit dropping temp down to 5F and killing the tree.
Source:       Walt Rockfellow URL: PNP&EPS: HPI ed.#30, May 1997, p.19.




Butia capitata
Size:       Adult (in reproductive age)
Freeze:   Date: Dec, 1996 Min:-10°C / 14°F
Damage:       40% Leaf-burn

Location:       North Vancouver, BC, Canada.
Soil:       Wet.
Protection:       Natural: Snow on plant.
Comment:       We had a record Dec 96 freeze with 41cm(16
Source:       Michael Ferguson E-Mail: michaels_ferguson@bc.sympatico.com URL: PNP&EPS: HPI ed.#30, May 1997, p.35



Butia capitata
Freeze:       Date: Dec 22, 1990 Min:-11°C / 12.2°F
Damage:       None
Location:       95476.
Comment:       Butia capitata survived without any damage the two nights of Dec. 21 and 22, 1990 when Sonoma, CA was touched by an exceptional cold spell: Temperatures dropped to -11C three nights in a row and only 0C during the day!!
Source:       Scott La Framenta URL: Manureva No.4, Oct 1998, p.15



Butia capitata
Size:       Adult (in reproductive age)
Freeze:       Date: Jan 6, 1999 Min:11°F / -11.7°C for ? Minute(s) Total Freeze Duration: 1 Day(s) Wind: 0 MPH.
Damage:       10% Leaf-burn after 9 Day(s).
Location:       29718 in a Exposed (to wind or heat radiation) Microclimate.
Soil:       Dry Sandy Loam Medium-Low pH (neutral to acidic) with Excellent Drainage.
Protection:       Artificial: No protection Natural: None.
Comment:       Also endured 13 Deg. F previous night. Damage was actually less than 10% leaf.
Source:       Marc Caramuta E-Mail: Mcaramut@scottaviation.com




Butia capitata
Freeze:       Date: Jan 13, 1981 Min:10°F / -12.2°C
Damage:       Unknown/Survived
Location:       33541.
Comment:       Here in Zephyr Hills, Paseo County, FL, off I-75 and state rd. 54: Butia capitata stood 10F on 1/13/81.
Source:       Erwin & Eugenie Fellows URL: Central FL Palm Bulletin V10#2 Apr90,p6



Butia capitata
Size:       Sapling (no defined stem)
Freeze:       Date: Jan, 1999 Min:-13°C / 8.6°F for 2 Day(s) Total Freeze Duration: 9 Day(s)
Damage:       Defoliated after 10 Day(s).
Location:       Berne (CH) in a Medium Exposed Microclimate.
Soil:       Dry with Good Drainage.
Protection:       Artificial: Complete Protection.
Comment:       Palm has been planted in spring 1996 when 4 years old. It has been defoliated twice (winter 96/97 and 98/99) when temp. dropped below -10C. By fall 97, the palm had 6 new leaves. Since March 99, three new leaves have appeared.


Butia capitata "Jelly Palm, Pindo Palm"
Size:       Juvenile (pre-reproductive with a trunk)
Freeze:       Date: Jan 1, 1997 Min:10°F / -12.2°C for 1 Hour(s) Total Freeze Duration: 1 Day(s) Wind: 15 MPH.
Damage:       None after 3 Year(s).
Location:       37920 in a Protected (by SW location, tree canopy, etc.) Microclimate.
Soil:       Moist Sandy Loam with Good Drainage.
Protection:       Artificial: No protection Natural: Snow on plant.
Comment:       This beautiful (now 7') specimen endured this temp New Years 1997 when Knoxville experienced snow and ice. The spring brought forth vigorous new growth, only the spike frond had some discoloration at the point where it emerged from the trunk. The plant was moved last summer to a new location in West Knoxville, and grew vigorously.
Source:       Bert Williamson E-Mail: Floriday@aol.com



Butia capitata
Size:       Adult (in reproductive age)
Freeze:       Date: Jan, 1997 Min:2°F / -16.7°C
Damage:       10% Leaf-burn
Location:       30022.
Protection:       Natural: Ice on plant.
Comment:       Butia capitata, a large seeding specimen. It was not happy with the ice storms but came through. I knocked off the ice accumulation every two hours in both storms. Has taken 2°F with a little damage but nothing severe.
Source:       Abb Gunn E-Mail: agunn@mindspring.com



Butia capitata
Freeze:       Date: Jan, 1997 Min:-14°C / 6.8°F Total Freeze Duration: 24 Day(s)
Damage:       Defoliated
Location:       Belgium.
Comment:   B. capitata outside since 1981 measured over 2m by 1996. The severe winter of 96-97, lasted 24 days with lows of -14°C, almost killed this palm. It resprouted by Aug of 97 and now has 20cm stem and 4 or 5 leaves.
Source:       ETS Plantimpex Belgium URL: HPI,ed39p36,PNP&EPS



Butia capitata
Size:       Juvenile (pre-reproductive with a trunk)
Freeze:       Date: Feb, 1996 Min:6°F / -14.4°C
Damage:       Lost bud/spear
Location:       28562.
Comment:   Planted in my yard from a 15 gallon in 1994 and turned completely brown after a 6 degree F ( 9°F at New Bern NC (N. Carolina) airport ) freeze in Feb. 1996. The bud pulled out and it was necessary to cut the trunk back to solid tissue. By late summer 1996 it had completely recovered. In 1999 the palm is producing a bumper crop of seed.
Source:       Gary Hollar E-Mail: gary@coastalnet.com URL: Gary's Nursery




Butia capitata
Size:       Juvenile (pre-reproductive with a trunk)
Freeze:       Date: Dec 25, 1983 Min:3°F / -16.1°C
Damage:       Lost bud/spear
Location:       28562.
Comment:   Some of the bigger Butias that survived I have always trunk cut after the bud pulls out after a bad freeze. Some survived the '83 at 3°F by trunk cutting them week or so they started to grow. The uncut ones were rotted.
Source:       Gary Hollar E-Mail: gary@coastalnet.com URL: Gary's Nursery



Butia capitata "Jellypalm"
Size:       Juvenile (pre-reproductive with a trunk)
Freeze:       Date: Dec 18, 2001 Min:- 13°C / 32°F for 8 Hour(s) Total Freeze Duration: 3 Day(s)
Damage:       None after 11 Day(s).
Location:       Cologne, Germany in a Exposed (to wind or heat radiation) Microclimate.
Soil:       Wet Sandy Loam with Good Drainage.
Protection:       Artificial: No protection.
Comment:       Planted in April 2000. 4 new fronds in 2000, 6 new fronds in 2001, approx. 230 cm high
Source:       Arnold Krueger E-Mail: arnokrueger@surfeu.de



Butia capitata
Size:       Juvenile (pre-reproductive with a trunk)
Freeze:       Min:-13°C / 8.6°F for 8 Hour(s) Total Freeze Duration: 24 Minute(s) Wind: 10 KMH.
Damage:       10% Leaf-burn after 3 Month(s).
Location:       Toulouse, France in a Medium Exposed Microclimate.
Soil:       Dry Sandy Loam Medium-Low pH (neutral to acidic) with Good Drainage.
Protection:       Artificial: No protection Natural: None.
Comment:       This is a report for all Butia capitata this winter in South West France, all the Butia capitata in natural soil have survived with just the end of the leaves burned. We had 5 nigth running with minimum temperature between -12°c to -14°c, and 2 days running were the t° was never above -5°c (in the shadow) and only 0°c in the sun (Butia location).
Source:       BEC E-Mail: frederic.bec@free.fr



Butia capitata "Jelly Palm"
Size:       Adult (in reproductive age)
Freeze:       Min:-14°C / 6.8°F for 3 Day(s)
Damage:       None after 3 Week(s).
Location:       Cologne, Germany in a Exposed (to wind or heat radiation) Microclimate.
Soil:       Wet Sandy Neutral pH with Excellent Drainage.
Protection:       Artificial: Slight protection.
Comment:       Hight of Palm is 245 cm. Trunk girth is 130 cm. 8 new fronds in 2002. 2 flower spikes emerged but did not open before fall
Source:       Arnold Krueger E-Mail: Comreport@Compuserve.de



Butia capitata "Pindo or Jelly Palm"
Size:       Sapling (no defined stem)
Freeze:       Date: Jan 16, 2004 Min:-1°F / -18.3°C for <1 Hour(s) Total Freeze Duration: 3 Week(s)
Damage:       Dead after 5 Month(s).
Location:       07076 in a Protected (by SW location, tree canopy, etc.) Microclimate.
Soil:       Sandy Loam with Good Drainage.
Protection:   Artificial: Complete Protection Natural: Snow on plant.
Comment:   Update to my previous post. The palm survived winter, and accidental pulling of healthy spear but this proved to be its undoing. Though was recovering well, apparently latter injury opened it up to infection, entire crown suddenly rotted & pulled late June. Due to recovery had stopped fungicide use. Will try again with new plant in better site.
Source:       Jonathan Smick E-Mail: rbs_inc@att.net




DRNIŠ:
USDA zone: 8b (prema 8a)
Prosječna godišnja apsolut. min. temp.:  -9,4°C
Apsolutna minimalna temperatura:        -16,1°C - 1985. g.
(razdoblje od 1961. g. do 2010. g.)
Godišnja prosječna temperatura:           13,0°C
Ukupna godiš. količina padalina:      oko 900 mm

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« Odgovori #17 u: Ožujak 02, 2008, 11:35:42 prijepodne »
Evo jedna butia capitata iz splitske luke. (iza se vidi još jedna)
Eh da ju je bilo uzet doma  :mrgreen:


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« Odgovori #18 u: Ožujak 02, 2008, 11:53:56 prijepodne »
Iako sam više puta bio u Splitu moram priznati da tamo nisam vidio nijednu Butiu capitatu. Zašto ih ne posade u zemlju, bolje bi rasle.
USDA zone: 7a


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« Odgovori #19 u: Ožujak 02, 2008, 12:51:35 poslijepodne »
Pa kad si bio?
Ove palme su već nekoliko godina na ovom mjestu, u dijelu luke za međunarodni promet.

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« Odgovori #20 u: Ožujak 02, 2008, 13:02:04 poslijepodne »
Evo jedna butia capitata iz splitske luke. (iza se vidi još jedna)
Eh da ju je bilo uzet doma  :mrgreen:

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa200/otokvis/butia-capitata-splitska-luka.jpg

Uh... prevelika je da se ukrade.  :rofl:  :mrgreen:

Lepa Butia.  :wink:
USDA zone: 7b/8а
AHS heat zone: 6
Average temperature: 13.6°C
Annual precipitation: 722 mm

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« Odgovori #21 u: Ožujak 02, 2008, 17:25:18 poslijepodne »
Vidio sam prije neki dan  :icon_mrhappy:

Super su i kako Pivi kaže već su dugo tamo, šteta što ih ne posade u zemlju...

Pivi, a tamo malo dalje di idu trajekti za Brač u onom redu su robuste, zar ne? Nikako nisu filifere jer su mi pretanke i imaju obojene drške lista, eventualno filibuste....

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« Odgovori #22 u: Ožujak 02, 2008, 17:26:24 poslijepodne »
Da, tamo dalje...na kraju luke...(nasuprot dalmacija vina)
Vjerojatno su filibuste...ali jako su tanke tako ako nisu robuste imaju jako puno robuste u sebi.
Ma to je i tako svejedno danas...a s obzirom da izgledaju kako izgledaju ja ću ih sve zvati robuste.
Neda mi se više ulazit u ove teoretske rasprave jeli ima 10 ili 20% filifere u sebi  :lol:
robusta je i gotovo
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« Odgovori #23 u: Ožujak 02, 2008, 17:27:40 poslijepodne »
 :icon_mrhappy:

Sada sam vidio tvoj text pod robustama  :rofl: :wink:

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« Odgovori #24 u: Lipanj 02, 2008, 14:33:08 poslijepodne »



Evo jucer sam kupila ovu ljepoticu,Fortunei :mrgreen: napisali ljudi na nju, i ja s vlasnikom koji je kao znalac krenem u razgovor, ma bas je nesto rijetka i jadna, ali ja imam srce za brinut se o takvim bolesnima, prema chameropsima i trahyima od 1,5 do 2 m izgledale su stvarno jadno, i tako se nas dvoje dogovorimo za 60 EUR za njih dvije. :mrgreen:
 mislim da je butia, iako mi ima i puno jubeae cini  mi se, velike su 85 cm i lijepi promijer stabla od 13 i 14 cm na najdebljem dijelu.
Sto kazete vi?

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« Odgovori #25 u: Lipanj 02, 2008, 15:20:50 poslijepodne »
Frane u svakom slučaju super kupnja i super cijena... bravo  :thumb_up:

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« Odgovori #26 u: Lipanj 02, 2008, 16:38:57 poslijepodne »
Lijepa je, čini se i meni da ima nešto Jubaee u sebi... :sretan:

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« Odgovori #27 u: Lipanj 18, 2008, 13:52:58 poslijepodne »
Moja butia je krenula bacat nove listove,
evo na moju radost jedan se vec otvorio, a cini mi se da se jos dva ili cak tri guraju medusobno.
Da li netko zna koliko je "normalno" koplj=listova odjednom kod butie.

I jos jedno pitanje, ova jedna koja ostaje ovdje u Njemackoj, planirala sam je posaditi odmah u vrt,
ali evo oduzilo se, i sada moje pitanje, cini mi se malo prekasno sada je posaditi u zemlju da bi se do zime odnosno jeseni kada ovdje vec zna zahladiti lijepo privikla, ustvari kratko da ne okolisam, ostaviti je u vazu do narednog proljeca ili je sada jos zasaditi? :misli:

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« Odgovori #28 u: Lipanj 18, 2008, 13:59:13 poslijepodne »
Sasvim je normalno da gure po vise kopalja odjednom, a za sadnju si ove godine cini mi se zakasnila, bolje sacekaj sledece prolece.
USDA zone: 7b/8а
AHS heat zone: 6
Average temperature: 13.6°C
Annual precipitation: 722 mm

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« Odgovori #29 u: Lipanj 18, 2008, 14:12:37 poslijepodne »
Hvala xenon,
ma tako sam i ja mislila, kazu da bi mogla bit jaka zima ova sljedeca, a ovdje tik tak zahladi,
pa da nebi bilo trcanja s dekama i zastitom. :mrgreen: