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PALME => PALME (Arecaceae) => Autor teme: akaranus - Studeni 01, 2016, 23:40:10 poslijepodne

Naslov: Hibridi phoenixa
Autor: akaranus - Studeni 01, 2016, 23:40:10 poslijepodne
evo par slija, robelenii x kanarka iz Makarske bi mogla u proljeće u zemlju, ide super brzo, niklo je i od KT ove pošiljke reclinata x dacty i reclinata x theop.

robeleni x kanarka-Makarsko sjeme
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robeleni x theophrasti
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Naslov: Odg: Hibridi phoenixa
Autor: akaranus - Studeni 01, 2016, 23:41:53 poslijepodne
robelenii x lourolei

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reclinata x robelenii

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Naslov: Odg: Hibridi phoenixa
Autor: Henoh - Studeni 02, 2016, 06:41:15 prijepodne
Bas se vide geni roebeliniija. Hibrid s kanarkom i theophrastijem ima vidno mekse listove.Tko bi rekao, i u tebe klijanaca. Navikao si nas kod sebe na palme od metar na vise  :icon_lol:
Naslov: Odg: Hibridi phoenixa
Autor: trava - Studeni 02, 2016, 07:11:29 prijepodne
Treći je loureiro x roebelenii.Odlične,pucaju od lipote :thumb_up:
Naslov: Odg: Hibridi phoenixa
Autor: akaranus - Studeni 02, 2016, 08:40:34 prijepodne
Bas se vide geni roebeliniija. Hibrid s kanarkom i theophrastijem ima vidno mekse listove.Tko bi rekao, i u tebe klijanaca. Navikao si nas kod sebe na palme od metar na vise  :icon_lol:
hehe a kad nemoš doć do većih ovog tipa....super ide ova rob x kanarka, vjerojatno je od oca skupila brzinu, još i da je otpornost to bi bilo ludnica  :wink:
trava znači majka indijka ili filipinka  :thumb_up: :sun:
Naslov: Odg: Hibridi phoenixa
Autor: KT - Studeni 02, 2016, 11:39:20 prijepodne
I reckon that the reclinata x dactylifera hybrid will look like this one. It is even nicer in reality than in picture because it combines glaucous and yellow on a relatively thin trunk :0648:
Naslov: Odg: Hibridi phoenixa
Autor: akaranus - Studeni 02, 2016, 12:20:35 poslijepodne
 :wink: :thumb_up:
beautiful palm thanks for seeds  :thumb_up:
i saw one huge with four heads it was so yellow it looks almoust like jubaeopsis  :wink:
Naslov: Odg: Hibridi phoenixa
Autor: KT - Studeni 08, 2016, 18:47:48 poslijepodne
Some of my hybrids loureiroixhanceana. Some have more intense trait of roebelenii and are also slower in growth, while others rsemble more the loureiroi and are faster in growth.
Naslov: Odg: Hibridi phoenixa
Autor: trava - Studeni 08, 2016, 20:39:21 poslijepodne
Nice :thumb_up:
Naslov: Odg: Hibridi phoenixa
Autor: Henoh - Studeni 10, 2016, 00:19:50 prijepodne
Već je bilo riječi o ovom hibridu na forumu. Stari primjerci na Visu. P. dactylifera x canariensis ili P. canariensis x dactylifera.
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Naslov: Odg: Hibridi phoenixa
Autor: akaranus - Studeni 10, 2016, 00:37:34 prijepodne
predobra  :thumb_up: da nisu pustili izdanke ne bi je ni primjetia toliko...ima mi više kanarke u sebi možda majka kanarka
Naslov: Odg: Hibridi phoenixa
Autor: Henoh - Studeni 10, 2016, 00:43:29 prijepodne
Slažem se, da su je ostavili na jednom deblu, reko bi čovjek netipični canariensis.
Naslov: Odg: Hibridi phoenixa
Autor: akaranus - Studeni 10, 2016, 00:54:48 prijepodne
:) jesi me diga  :thumb_up:
Naslov: Odg: Hibridi phoenixa
Autor: trava - Studeni 10, 2016, 09:52:21 prijepodne
Trebalo bi raskotiti ovog križanca,pa ih dalje križati sa drugim phoenixima.Ima li ko sjemena?
Naslov: Odg: Hibridi phoenixa
Autor: palmofan - Studeni 10, 2016, 10:01:32 prijepodne
Palma koja bi izašla iz tog sjemena bi vrlo vjerojatno bila "polukrižanac" tj. 75% kanarka i 25% dactylifera, budući da na Visu prevladavaju kanarke pa je gotovo sigurno da je taj hibrid oprašen peludom kanarke.
Naslov: Odg: Hibridi phoenixa
Autor: Henoh - Studeni 10, 2016, 17:12:06 poslijepodne
Trebalo bi raskotiti ovog križanca,pa ih dalje križati sa drugim phoenixima.Ima li ko sjemena?

Stavio sam ono sjeme sa slike klijati pa ti se javim
Naslov: Odg: Hibridi phoenixa
Autor: KT - Studeni 20, 2016, 19:52:09 poslijepodne
First sprouts of the reclinata x dactylifera cross. Seedlings have quite stiff leaves, about three times stiffer than the seedlings reclinata x roebelenii. They still grow inside the propagator, where it is quite moist and semi-shady. So I reckon that new leaves growing in full sun outdoors will be very hard textured.
Naslov: Odg: Hibridi phoenixa
Autor: KT - Prosinac 08, 2016, 10:02:02 prijepodne
robelenii x lourolei

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reclinata x robelenii

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End of growth season for my hybrid reclinata x roebelenii. It has spent first time whole season outdoors and still looks very gracile, a feature inherited from father (roebelenii) with soft, long, very linear pinnae. Very little 'hardening off' since exposure in the open air. Glad that I do not have another canary in the end.
Ante, you'd better take good care of the reclinata x roebelenii hybrid.
Naslov: Odg: Hibridi phoenixa
Autor: akaranus - Prosinac 08, 2016, 10:26:42 prijepodne
 :thumb_up:
beautiful palm, of course few more years in pot with nice food and then maybe somewhere in warm  sunny and nice prepared place in the garden with protecting it in the winter...
Naslov: Odg: Hibridi phoenixa
Autor: Cikas - Lipanj 13, 2019, 14:22:46 poslijepodne
Počelo klijati sjeme Phoenix loureiroi X roebelenii koje sam dobio prošle godine od Phoenikakiasa.

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Naslov: Odg: Hibridi phoenixa
Autor: KT - Lipanj 14, 2019, 20:03:30 poslijepodne
loureiroi x theophrasti (f1)
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Naslov: Odg: Hibridi phoenixa
Autor: Cikas - Lipanj 15, 2019, 00:34:49 prijepodne
This will be interesting hybrid.  :thumb_up:
Naslov: Odg: Hibridi phoenixa
Autor: Cikas - Lipanj 18, 2019, 23:42:55 poslijepodne
Brzo rastu.

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Naslov: Odg: Hibridi phoenixa
Autor: Cikas - Srpanj 05, 2019, 00:42:17 prijepodne
Phoenix reclinata x roebelenii

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Naslov: Odg: Hibridi phoenixa
Autor: KT - Rujan 24, 2019, 21:40:44 poslijepodne
This is roebelenii x dactylifera female plant
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And these are fruits of above plant produced by the use of theophrasti pollen (roebelenii x dactylifera = roebelifera) x theophrasti
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Naslov: Odg: Hibridi phoenixa
Autor: Cikas - Rujan 25, 2019, 20:03:40 poslijepodne
That will be interesting hybrid.  :thumb_up:
Naslov: Odg: Hibridi phoenixa
Autor: KT - Rujan 28, 2019, 10:47:11 prijepodne
This is roebelenii x dactylifera female plant
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And these are fruits of above plant produced by the use of theophrasti pollen (roebelenii x dactylifera = roebelifera) x theophrasti
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First ripe fruit. Always near the left margin of the pictures. On the opposite right side 4 dates and their seeds from my garden. Hybrid fruits taste like genuine dates, nothing else to miss but just more flesh, although flesh is more than by other Phoenix spp, so I think only real difference is in size!!!
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Naslov: Odg: Hibridi phoenixa
Autor: branimir - Listopad 12, 2019, 17:29:14 poslijepodne
First ripe fruit. Always near the left margin of the pictures. On the opposite right side 4 dates and their seeds from my garden. Hybrid fruits taste like genuine dates, nothing else to miss but just more flesh, although flesh is more than by other Phoenix spp, so I think only real difference is in size!!!

Best thing  :thumb_up:
Naslov: Odg: Hibridi phoenixa
Autor: KT - Listopad 14, 2019, 06:57:35 prijepodne
loureiroi x theophrasti (f1)

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Same plants near the end of current growing season. Perhaps in bigger pots they would have performed much better.
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Naslov: Odg: Hibridi phoenixa
Autor: trava - Listopad 20, 2019, 23:38:43 poslijepodne
Sigurno,phoenixi vole duboke pitare :thumb_up:
Naslov: Odg: Hibridi phoenixa
Autor: KT - Listopad 21, 2020, 12:33:11 poslijepodne
New hybrid Phoenix dactylifera Barhee x Phoenix theophrasti
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Naslov: Odg: Hibridi phoenixa
Autor: trava - Listopad 21, 2020, 18:20:34 poslijepodne
Krasno.Plodovi su prilično maleni?
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Autor: Henoh - Listopad 21, 2020, 21:06:14 poslijepodne
Valjda geni od theophrastia?
How does it taste?
Naslov: Odg: Hibridi phoenixa
Autor: KT - Listopad 21, 2020, 21:59:40 poslijepodne
Fruits sweet but moderately fermented. Those are the first dates to reach maturity. Usually first dates are not good but then follows the maturation of rest dates in great numbers and they taste much better.
Naslov: Odg: Hibridi phoenixa
Autor: Cikas - Listopad 21, 2020, 22:12:32 poslijepodne
Same plants near the end of current growing season. Perhaps in bigger pots they would have performed much better.
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They look very healthy.  :thumb_up:
Naslov: Odg: Hibridi phoenixa
Autor: Cikas - Listopad 21, 2020, 22:16:23 poslijepodne
Phoenix loureiroi x dactylifera from your seeds.

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Autor: dalmatiansoap - Listopad 22, 2020, 12:48:27 poslijepodne
Taj hibrid ima veliki potencijal
Naslov: Odg: Hibridi phoenixa
Autor: KT - Listopad 23, 2020, 11:18:28 prijepodne
Perhaps there is a misunderstanding here, mother tree is not a hybrid, it is pure dactylifera of the Barhee variety. But to form edible date it had been pollinated with pollen from P theophrasti. So, if seeds from those fruits germinate, it will be created the hybrid Barhee x theophrasti.
Naslov: Odg: Hibridi phoenixa
Autor: Cikas - Listopad 28, 2020, 01:01:08 prijepodne
Phoenix reclinata x roebelenii

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Naslov: Odg: Hibridi phoenixa
Autor: branimir - Studeni 29, 2020, 22:09:44 poslijepodne
Perhaps there is a misunderstanding here, mother tree is not a hybrid, it is pure dactylifera of the Barhee variety. But to form edible date it had been pollinated with pollen from P theophrasti. So, if seeds from those fruits germinate, it will be created the hybrid Barhee x theophrasti.

Very good combination, early ripening of Barhee and mediteranean adapted theophrasti.
Great potential for frut in colder part of the mediteranean basin.  :thumb_up:
Naslov: Odg: Hibridi phoenixa
Autor: KT - Prosinac 01, 2020, 10:11:42 prijepodne
Thanks, but unfortunately it seems to exist only a low interest in them. My purpose however was in first line the scientific research in coworking with Muriel Gros-Balthazard.
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There is a suspicion that Minoans were exporting theophrasti pollen to northern Africa and plot thickens more as theophrasti genes had been found in the genome of north African varieties. Picture is from seal imprints found on Minoan pottery.
Besides it had been found in Knossos the word Ponikijo  (Φοινίκειο) in  linear B script, which was assumed to mean a commodity in powder form. But no more information was available. Under the light of described suspicion, we may be on to something new here!
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