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« Odgovori #165 u: Prosinca 07, 2010, 00:27:03 prijepodne »
Ma samo ti napravi dobar malc oko nje i ne brini netreba zimi mnogo vode palmama mada ponekad ih treba zaliti ali ne da stalno imaju vlage oko korena pusti komsinicu neka ona sa vodom stiti palme od mraza.
nije znanje znanje znati vec je znanje znanje dati

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« Odgovori #166 u: Prosinca 07, 2010, 14:37:58 poslijepodne »
Ne, nemoj nikako to raditi! Prvo led nije dobar izolator, snijeg je puno bolji, jer nije toliko kompaktan, sadrži mjehuriće zraka. Drugo, sad je palmi bitno da je zemlja što više suha, jer biljka osmozom povlaći vodu iz tla, i što je ima više u tlu, ima je više u biljci, a višak vode snižava razinu šećera u biljci, i time ju čini manje otpornom na minuse. Zemlja je sama po sebi veliki spremnik topline, i još uvijek je relativno topla, posebno u krajevima gdje još nije bilo jače zime. Zato kad malčiraš oko biljke usporavaš hlađenje zemlje, i dodatno izoliraš korijen od hladnoće odozgor.
Ima jedan drugi način koji se primjenjuje u nasadima agruma na jugu SAD-a; oni prije dolaska hladnoća polijevaju zemlju u voćnjacima vodom, ali ne oko samih biljaka, nego dalje, van dosega korijenja. Voda je veliki spremnik topline i njenim hlađenjem, kada dođe hladnoća, oslobađa se dosta topline i tako usporavaju hlađenje zraka u voćnjacima.
Drugi način je kada dođe hladnoća polijevanje krošnje biljke sitnim, raspršenim kapljicama vode, pomoću mikrosprinkler sustava. Tada se na krošnjama počne formirati led, ali kako se stalno rasprskuju nove kapljice vode temperatura samog leda ne pada puno ispod 0 C. Taj način je kompliciran i skup, i moguć samo u profesionalnim nasadima, a i vrijedi tamo gdje hladnoće traju nekoliko sati. U uvjetima vezanih ledenih dana, nakon nekog vremena na biljkama bi se formiralo toliko leda da bi se grane jednostavno slomile od težine.

http://www.plantstress.com/Articles/cold_m/cold%20protection.pdf
DRNIŠ:
USDA zone: 8b (prema 8a)
Prosječna godišnja apsolut. min. temp.:  -9,4°C
Apsolutna minimalna temperatura:        -16,1°C - 1985. g.
(razdoblje od 1961. g. do 2010. g.)
Godišnja prosječna temperatura:           13,0°C
Ukupna godiš. količina padalina:      oko 900 mm

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« Odgovori #167 u: Prosinca 07, 2010, 14:52:03 poslijepodne »
Ma naravno da necu, nego mi cisto zvucalo zaminljivo pa da podelim ,,zanimljivost'' sa vama...  :thumb_up:
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« Odgovori #168 u: Prosinca 07, 2010, 14:58:45 poslijepodne »
Kod nas u prolece kad krenu kasni mrazevi da bi se sacuvavali orasi koji su vec izlistali ljudi ispod stabla zapale stare gume i to dimi celu noc da ih ne bi mraz ostetio ali to nije primenljivo na palmama.
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« Odgovori #169 u: Prosinca 22, 2010, 16:00:44 poslijepodne »
Snow paradise :mrgreen:. Trachycarpus takil and Trachycarpus wagnerianus :thumb_up:.











Winter min. 2010/11: -16,3°C, snow max 9 cm
2011/12: -20,3°C, 13 cm
2012/13: -11,6°C, 24 cm
2013/14: -9,1°C, 9 cm
2014/15: -13,9°C, 9 cm
2015/16: -16,2°C, 9 cm
2016/17: -17,7°C, 21 cm

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« Odgovori #170 u: Prosinca 22, 2010, 17:30:51 poslijepodne »
 :thumb_up:

real takil or nainital?
živjelo globalno "zatopljenje"

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« Odgovori #171 u: Prosinca 22, 2010, 17:36:25 poslijepodne »
This T. takil is too large to be true one. Europalms introduced seed from habitat in year 2008.
'Mediteran kakav je nekad bio'

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« Odgovori #172 u: Prosinca 22, 2010, 18:32:07 poslijepodne »
 :shocked: :misli: I bought a palm here: www.palmycycasy.cz

I ask the seller and write how it happened :old:.

(Pitam prodavača, i pisati ono što je rekao :thumb_up:)
Winter min. 2010/11: -16,3°C, snow max 9 cm
2011/12: -20,3°C, 13 cm
2012/13: -11,6°C, 24 cm
2013/14: -9,1°C, 9 cm
2014/15: -13,9°C, 9 cm
2015/16: -16,2°C, 9 cm
2016/17: -17,7°C, 21 cm

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« Odgovori #173 u: Prosinca 22, 2010, 20:57:05 poslijepodne »
Salesman said that it is 100% takil  :wink: . Apparently growing very rapidly :thumb_up:.
Winter min. 2010/11: -16,3°C, snow max 9 cm
2011/12: -20,3°C, 13 cm
2012/13: -11,6°C, 24 cm
2013/14: -9,1°C, 9 cm
2014/15: -13,9°C, 9 cm
2015/16: -16,2°C, 9 cm
2016/17: -17,7°C, 21 cm

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« Odgovori #174 u: Prosinca 22, 2010, 20:59:20 poslijepodne »

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« Odgovori #175 u: Prosinca 22, 2010, 21:16:32 poslijepodne »
Winter min. 2010/11: -16,3°C, snow max 9 cm
2011/12: -20,3°C, 13 cm
2012/13: -11,6°C, 24 cm
2013/14: -9,1°C, 9 cm
2014/15: -13,9°C, 9 cm
2015/16: -16,2°C, 9 cm
2016/17: -17,7°C, 21 cm

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« Odgovori #176 u: Prosinca 22, 2010, 22:09:02 poslijepodne »
E kad toto kaze, onda...  :wink:
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« Odgovori #177 u: Prosinca 23, 2010, 09:51:53 prijepodne »
Evo što kaže James s Europalmsa

"Hallo

my first takil seeds we had in December 2007 but we have start selling them in January 2008
before that date all takils sold by me was nainitall
the seedlings from the takil are very slow growing and doesn't look like nainitall ore fortunei
seedlings
looks more like a great oreophilius but nicer looking

the takil seedlings are very slow growing, even some plants are growing in spain with the same results
they are not bigger in spain
I have none with a full developed leaf, I hope in spring 2011 we will have some

Dealing in palm seeds is a very difficult job, you get seeds from your dealer that you need to trust
Going to each palm location is impossible even if you do this you can only get a few seeds with you on the airplane
If you collect over there 30.000 seeds you need to send the seeds to your address and claim for a phyto, so how you gone do this
Asking for a phyto in a country where you not live ?
I never said ore written that I am the only one who has the takil
I only look to my palms from the seeds we got from our dealer and see if they are correct
People who bought seedlings from our shop as takil 2008-2010 are saying this, they buy palms and are looking to these palms
To see if they are correct ore not

And yes mistakes happens, you get old seeds, seeds taken to soon from the palms, sold wrong seeds, insects, ....
This is the problem what all seed dealers have, but this is the gamble we need to take to get new varieties from remote locations
And sometimes when collecting seeds they sell us seeds that are not the real deal but it turns out to be a new palm like nova

Regards
James"

Ovar kaže da mu ta palma raste jako brzo što mi nekako vuče na Nainital
« Zadnja izmjena: Prosinca 23, 2010, 09:54:33 prijepodne od Henoh »
'Mediteran kakav je nekad bio'

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« Odgovori #178 u: Prosinca 23, 2010, 20:50:24 poslijepodne »
ovare máš plné sz!!!

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« Odgovori #179 u: Prosinca 23, 2010, 22:48:29 poslijepodne »
A vod koho asi!!! :rofl: :wink:
Winter min. 2010/11: -16,3°C, snow max 9 cm
2011/12: -20,3°C, 13 cm
2012/13: -11,6°C, 24 cm
2013/14: -9,1°C, 9 cm
2014/15: -13,9°C, 9 cm
2015/16: -16,2°C, 9 cm
2016/17: -17,7°C, 21 cm