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« Odgovori #180 u: Prosinca 23, 2010, 22:53:04 poslijepodne »
Evo što kaže James s Europalmsa

"Hallo

my first takil seeds we had in December 2007 but we have start selling them in January 2008
before that date all takils sold by me was nainitall
the seedlings from the takil are very slow growing and doesn't look like nainitall ore fortunei
seedlings
looks more like a great oreophilius but nicer looking

the takil seedlings are very slow growing, even some plants are growing in spain with the same results
they are not bigger in spain
I have none with a full developed leaf, I hope in spring 2011 we will have some

Dealing in palm seeds is a very difficult job, you get seeds from your dealer that you need to trust
Going to each palm location is impossible even if you do this you can only get a few seeds with you on the airplane
If you collect over there 30.000 seeds you need to send the seeds to your address and claim for a phyto, so how you gone do this
Asking for a phyto in a country where you not live ?
I never said ore written that I am the only one who has the takil
I only look to my palms from the seeds we got from our dealer and see if they are correct
People who bought seedlings from our shop as takil 2008-2010 are saying this, they buy palms and are looking to these palms
To see if they are correct ore not

And yes mistakes happens, you get old seeds, seeds taken to soon from the palms, sold wrong seeds, insects, ....
This is the problem what all seed dealers have, but this is the gamble we need to take to get new varieties from remote locations
And sometimes when collecting seeds they sell us seeds that are not the real deal but it turns out to be a new palm like nova

Regards
James"

Ovar kaže da mu ta palma raste jako brzo što mi nekako vuče na Nainital

Thanks Henoh for information :wink:. I don't know, seller said takil, you say naini tal :misli:. When the palm more old, maybe it will get to know :thumb_up:.
« Zadnja izmjena: Prosinca 23, 2010, 23:01:17 poslijepodne od Ovar »
Winter min. 2010/11: -16,3°C, snow max 9 cm
2011/12: -20,3°C, 13 cm
2012/13: -11,6°C, 24 cm
2013/14: -9,1°C, 9 cm
2014/15: -13,9°C, 9 cm
2015/16: -16,2°C, 9 cm
2016/17: -17,7°C, 21 cm

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« Odgovori #181 u: Prosinca 27, 2010, 16:26:30 poslijepodne »
http://snowpalm.dyndns.org/eng/?palm.html  Cetvrta slika po redu, kaze:A true Trachycarpus takil in the Botanic Garden in Rome 1996. This specimen was a gift from the Italian botanist Odoardo Beccari, who described this species, and could be the only guaranteed true T. takil in the west.   :thumb_up:
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« Odgovori #182 u: Prosinca 27, 2010, 16:35:36 poslijepodne »
T. takil se razlikuje od fortuneia u mladoj fazi i odrasloj. Klijanci imaju 2 ponekad 3 ruba rebara. Ako se pojave s 4 uglavnom nisu čisti, ili su hibridi ili su neka druga vrsta, vjerojatno T. fortunei, odnosno T. fortunei nainital. Prvi list T. takila je duguljast i uopće ne liči na T. fortuneia, jako lako propadaju i osjetljivi su na vlagu za razliku od T. fortuneia. Odrasli T. takil ima drugačije listove i broj segmenata

Odlične slike T. takila iz prirodnog staništa (što se baš i ne viđa često) od osobe koja se potpisuje kao alexander s foruma growingontheedge. Već prije je donio lijepih fotki iz staništa T. oreophilusa

http://www.growingontheedge.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4552&sid=fb9ec77bf8430d4dd904c46fc4d6368e


slike iz istog staništa s gardenpalmsa

http://gardenpalms.com/EN%5Carticles/top%20trachycarpus.aspx

Osim T. takila u rimskom botaničkom vrtu ima ga u vili Odoarda Beccaria kod Firenze. Moguće da ih ima još negdje jer je sjeme Beccari prosljeđivao svojim prijateljima botaničarima širom svijeta.
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« Odgovori #183 u: Ožujka 11, 2011, 11:52:24 prijepodne »
 :thumb_up:.















Winter min. 2010/11: -16,3°C, snow max 9 cm
2011/12: -20,3°C, 13 cm
2012/13: -11,6°C, 24 cm
2013/14: -9,1°C, 9 cm
2014/15: -13,9°C, 9 cm
2015/16: -16,2°C, 9 cm
2016/17: -17,7°C, 21 cm

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« Odgovori #184 u: Ožujka 11, 2011, 12:46:05 poslijepodne »
Fabulous palms Ovar, some you're going to plant outdoors? :thumb_up: :sun:
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« Odgovori #185 u: Ožujka 11, 2011, 14:21:47 poslijepodne »
the every honor masters ovar
nije znanje znanje znati vec je znanje znanje dati

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« Odgovori #186 u: Ožujka 11, 2011, 16:51:19 poslijepodne »
Thanks Scalar :thumb_up: :sun:.
 
Yes Yonex, I'm going to plant Trachycarpus wagnerianus, Trachycarpus takil, Washingtonia filifera and Jubaea chilensis. These will be outside all year :thumb_up: :cool:.
Winter min. 2010/11: -16,3°C, snow max 9 cm
2011/12: -20,3°C, 13 cm
2012/13: -11,6°C, 24 cm
2013/14: -9,1°C, 9 cm
2014/15: -13,9°C, 9 cm
2015/16: -16,2°C, 9 cm
2016/17: -17,7°C, 21 cm

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« Odgovori #187 u: Ožujka 11, 2011, 18:09:47 poslijepodne »
Thanks Scalar :thumb_up: :sun:.
 
Yes Yonex, I'm going to plant Trachycarpus takil

Mmm, T.takil, sweet dreams... :060: Maybe the most valuable of palms you listed. :sun:
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« Odgovori #188 u: Ožujka 26, 2011, 19:23:47 poslijepodne »
Palm trees are after the winter in good condition :thumb_up:.





I made ​​new beds for Phoenix canariensis, Livistona chinensis and Sabal minor :cool:.







Winter min. 2010/11: -16,3°C, snow max 9 cm
2011/12: -20,3°C, 13 cm
2012/13: -11,6°C, 24 cm
2013/14: -9,1°C, 9 cm
2014/15: -13,9°C, 9 cm
2015/16: -16,2°C, 9 cm
2016/17: -17,7°C, 21 cm

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« Odgovori #189 u: Ožujka 26, 2011, 19:28:34 poslijepodne »
all fair is preserved the work winters
nije znanje znanje znati vec je znanje znanje dati

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« Odgovori #190 u: Ožujka 26, 2011, 19:33:57 poslijepodne »
Looks great! :thumb_up: Wow, what a big minor, how old is that thing. :shocked: :sretan: I'd say 10-15 years... :misli:
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« Odgovori #191 u: Ožujka 26, 2011, 19:37:00 poslijepodne »
 :thumb_up:

But in year 2009, was more beautiful :mrgreen: http://img190.imageshack.us/i/dscf3327y.jpg/

Seller says, that it's from Spain and old is probably 5-8 years  :misli: :thumb_up:.
« Zadnja izmjena: Ožujka 26, 2011, 19:40:41 poslijepodne od Ovar »
Winter min. 2010/11: -16,3°C, snow max 9 cm
2011/12: -20,3°C, 13 cm
2012/13: -11,6°C, 24 cm
2013/14: -9,1°C, 9 cm
2014/15: -13,9°C, 9 cm
2015/16: -16,2°C, 9 cm
2016/17: -17,7°C, 21 cm

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« Odgovori #192 u: Ožujka 26, 2011, 19:51:18 poslijepodne »
Maybe that seller grow palms in greenhouse so they grow very fast.S.minor like high moisture and temperatures, and greenhouse provide those conditions...
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« Odgovori #193 u: Ožujka 27, 2011, 06:59:52 prijepodne »
great pics ovar!! glad that it survived the winter. mine CIDP also survived with lot damage, but finally alive.
your garden looks awsome. you have in plan to plant more palms? i've seen one smaller CIDP in pot...
it's a real paradise! congratulation  :thumb_up:
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« Odgovori #194 u: Ožujka 27, 2011, 13:22:34 poslijepodne »
Maybe that seller grow palms in greenhouse so they grow very fast.S.minor like high moisture and temperatures, and greenhouse provide those conditions...

This minor grown on a plantation outside :thumb_up:.

great pics ovar!! glad that it survived the winter. mine CIDP also survived with lot damage, but finally alive.
your garden looks awsome. you have in plan to plant more palms? i've seen one smaller CIDP in pot...
it's a real paradise! congratulation  :thumb_up:
rgds

Thanks Damir :thumb_up:,

CIDP = Canarian island date palm :icon_question: :misli: :icon_redface:.
Winter min. 2010/11: -16,3°C, snow max 9 cm
2011/12: -20,3°C, 13 cm
2012/13: -11,6°C, 24 cm
2013/14: -9,1°C, 9 cm
2014/15: -13,9°C, 9 cm
2015/16: -16,2°C, 9 cm
2016/17: -17,7°C, 21 cm